*By request in my Chat group for people at risk in Ohio from the train derailment.
I didn't notice any reference to burning vinyl chloride producing dioxins, but that's an even bigger deal than the immediate poisoning effects or HCl production.
https://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=989
Oh, great.
Thanks 🙏
I also forgot to mention it can make phosgene (like, WWI chemical warfare phosgene.)
And to add insult to injury, this abstract says iron or copper alongside carbon will act like a catalyst and enhance the reaction.
https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article-abstract/28/1/49/176886
I added it to the follow-up post belatedly. https://denutrients.substack.com/p/vinyl-chloride-hydrochloric-acid. Thanks for the heads-up!
Thanks for this!
The burning resulted in phosgene gas as well as hydrogen chloride. It was probably the phosgene that killed the chickens and other small animals. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/phosgene#section=Mechanism-of-Action
Other chemicals released (in addition to the vinyl chloride) were: butyl acrylate, ethylhexyl acrylate, and ethylene glycol monobutyl.
https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-train-derailment-toxic-chemicals-list-epa-1780805
I added your reply to my follow-up post, as an afterthought. I hadn't seen it yet. https://denutrients.substack.com/p/vinyl-chloride-hydrochloric-acid
Thanks for letting us know!
I didn't notice any reference to burning vinyl chloride producing dioxins, but that's an even bigger deal than the immediate poisoning effects or HCl production.
https://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=989
Oh, great.
Thanks 🙏
I also forgot to mention it can make phosgene (like, WWI chemical warfare phosgene.)
And to add insult to injury, this abstract says iron or copper alongside carbon will act like a catalyst and enhance the reaction.
https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article-abstract/28/1/49/176886
I added it to the follow-up post belatedly. https://denutrients.substack.com/p/vinyl-chloride-hydrochloric-acid. Thanks for the heads-up!
Thanks for this!
The burning resulted in phosgene gas as well as hydrogen chloride. It was probably the phosgene that killed the chickens and other small animals. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/phosgene#section=Mechanism-of-Action
Other chemicals released (in addition to the vinyl chloride) were: butyl acrylate, ethylhexyl acrylate, and ethylene glycol monobutyl.
https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-train-derailment-toxic-chemicals-list-epa-1780805
I added your reply to my follow-up post, as an afterthought. I hadn't seen it yet. https://denutrients.substack.com/p/vinyl-chloride-hydrochloric-acid
Thanks for letting us know!