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SomeDude's avatar

any study pushing weak excuses for the more and more common SafeAndEffective™ cardiac issues should be shoved back into the propaganda orifices it crawled out of.

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KP Stoller's avatar

Niacin repairs DNA and low levels cause depression... This is another BS study... who funded it.

BTW Niacinamide is probably a more tolerated version than plain Niacin.

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Jennifer Depew, R.D.'s avatar

Niacin is awesome in many ways, yes.

Yes, no flush, that is why niacinamide is in most supplements now. But, it is the niacinamide form that might be the problem at excess levels for the metabolite issue that the BS study is discussing.

High doses of niacinamide are used and readily available. I bought a 1000 mg one by accident and broke them in half but that was sharp edged.

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DrFred57's avatar

According to Hoffer it’s the flush version that works on cholesterol levels not the non-flushing version. My wife has a difficult time with the flushing version so uses the non-flushing version.

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Jennifer Depew, R.D.'s avatar

It is the flush version that works on cholesterol and the non-flush type that might be more of a health negative for heart issues, if taken in excess.

There isn't really a reason to take mega large doses of the non-flush type.

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skylover's avatar

Jennifer, thanks for writing on Niacin again.. in my experience Niacin and niacinamide both helped me rather NMN caused some strange headache... not sure why, ofcourse both niacin and niacinamide were taken in combination , not standalone..also as Dr.Berg suggests taking 100/150mg 5-6 times throughout the day is better than taking all at once.. keeping the NAD+ levels high all the time is helpful for us.. i even find the combination of 1mg melatonin, 100mg niacinamide and 5mg pyridoxine just before bedtime really helpful... in my experience both niacin and niacinamide gives great results!

Also MSM is pointing finger in some specific vitamin means that must be good for us:D

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Jennifer Depew, R.D.'s avatar

That makes sense. Divided doses of water soluble things are always going to be better for the body than a 1000 mg tablet.

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skylover's avatar

also worth mentioning arthritis can be cured with niacinamide! or atleast kept under control...

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Lev Jess's avatar

I love my Niacin 1 or 2 times a week at 500mg (not really as companies use room for fillers and binders - rarely is it pure) - Once you clear the body of the issues the niacin only gives a small flush.

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Jennifer Depew, R.D.'s avatar

I noticed less flush as I continued using it too. I get more flush now with the low dose, which to me suggests that I need more.

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DrFred57's avatar

You’ve read Hoffer’s book no doubt?

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Rat's avatar

In our parts, caraway seeds go into all sorts of cabbage stews, and occasionally even into sauercraut. (Baltic cuisine is quite diverse but we do share a lot with Poles)

I've made carrot salad with ground caraway but my better half didn't like it.

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Jennifer Depew, R.D.'s avatar

Did it have raisins? Sweet bitter....winning tastebuds.

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Rat's avatar

Nope, raisins do not survive long enough in our home. :)

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DrFred57's avatar

Based on Dr Abram Hoffer’s book “Niacin the Real Story,” I began taking his recommended dosage of 3,000mg per day split into 3 doses. Of course I built up to it over time. I noticed within 3 months all of my cholesterol labs went into normal ranges.

I actually take 6,000mg/day now and have for a number of years. I take the kind that flushes but I haven’t flushed in years, which is exactly what Hoffer said would occur.

I know that Pharma wants niacin gone do they can patent a version of it as an Rx. They’ve wanted to do the same thing with NAC. So far they haven’t succeeded and let’s home they continue to fail.

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