Consciousness and Quantum Physics
.... ie quantum biology discussion with Stuart Hamaroff and Roger Penrose
Are microtubules like quantum antennae connecting our brain cells for more instantaneous vision or insight? Is there a universal consciousness that we can tap into as well? How do single celled organisms move towards food or sunlight and away from negative factors when they don’t have brain cells with synaptic connections? (spoiler: TRP and calcium channels are very primitive and sense environmental conditions and cause change in action of a cell.)
This post is for those who dare to question ‘settled science’—and for anyone who’s loved someone through dementia’s storm. Histamine hijacking our Reticular Activating System may be involved along with microtubules disrupted by glyphosate or aluminum. If that’s you, read on.
What if Alzheimer’s, autism, and even our ‘rational’ thoughts depend on quantum processes in tiny brain proteins—ones that glyphosate and histamine storms can hijack? Consciousness might be more fragile, and more miraculous, than we’re told.
Dementia is like a loss of normal consciousness with occasional flashes of the person. Having lived through histamine excess storms—it’s irrational, out of control. I can kind of realize I’m saying awful things but can’t stop. I need a quiet, dark room, zero interaction—like an autistic child in meltdown. This isn’t ‘psychology’—it’s quantum biology crashing. When histamine floods the tuberomammillary nucleus, the reticular activating system (RAS) short-circuits. Sedatives mute the chaos, but they don’t fix the broken antennae.
If you’re skeptical, dig into the research: Histamine H3 receptors modulate RAS arousal (Panula et al., 2015), and glyphosate’s microtubule disruption is documented (Díaz-Martín, et al., 2021). This isn’t speculation about glyphosate—it’s suppressed science.
*DeepSeek AI provided editorial help for this post — but the ideas are mine or my interpretation of the cited authors’ work. AI is a tool which can save us time or broaden our search for related topics, but it has to be given the direction to look.
Video (embedded within the post a bit later): Ep 110: Is consciousness related to quantum physics? (with Roger Penrose *a Nobel prize winner in Physics, 2020, for work showing black holes support the theory of general relativity, and Stuart Hameroff, *anesthesiologist), Channel: Inner Consciousness with David Eagleman, (Youtube)
Low Histamine Diet handout (by me): ‘Histamine and Health’ (Dropbox)
Microtubules: The Brain’s Quantum Antennae?
Nutshell consciousness theory - microtubules seem to help support consciousness. Hameroff and Penrose developed the theory of Orchestrated Objective Reduction (Hameroff and Penrose, 2014) based in part on the study of what is common between sedatives that are used for surgeries, (sedating consciousness without blocking sensation or physical function like breathing and heart rate)? The sedatives were found to have in common the disruption of microtubule function. Microtubules are long thin straw-like proteins made of many matching subunits that spiral up into a tube, like Lego blocks that form a cylinder if you stack enough of them together. Microtubules provide structural support with cell fluid or extracellular fluid, but are they also acting like miniature antennae supporting the rapid thinking involved in consciousness?
To ‘see’ a landscape, or anything, the brain is not seeing one picture. Many cells are seeing a pixel like tiny section - one section of a blade of grass, another cell sees another, and other cells see brown dots, some cells will react to certain types of motion and signal if ‘waving’ of the grass blade seems to be happening or of the brown dots. … And somehow, all the pixels are put together almost instantaneously into a full image, a brown deer is moving across a field of grass that is blowing in the wind. How can our brain put such a complex jigsaw puzzle together almost instantly?
If we sedate our consciousness, then are we no longer quantum connected? If we sedate our consciousness can we expect to see anything other than blurred images? We aren’t putting together the jigsaw puzzle as rapidly or maybe at all.
“Might consciousness be a fundamental property of the universe?” - David Eagleman to Roger Penrose
Roger Penrose said randomness is not free will. I would counter that maybe the universe is not random after all. Looking at suggests that the universe is fairly well organized rather than random.
The field of quantum mechanics doesn’t seem to understand intent/bias though - as explained in the video - we don’t know what the outcome will be until we see the outcome - will the tossed coin be heads or tails? Looking at the coin, as the conscious observer, sets the outcome, the ‘singularity of the wave function collapses into one or the other outcome’. I would disagree, intent/bias happens first and sets up the outcome that matches the intent or biased thought … I will see magic! …. or I will not see magic because magic is impossible! We see what we expect.
The Reticular Activating System as our inner focus
In my personal theory, the Reticular Activating System in the brainstem is a critical player in consciousness and our inner focus - what are we expecting to see or wanting to see? …that is what we are going to see whether from intentional focus (positive thinking that is goal oriented and realistic rather than just a wish) or from bias, unintentional thinking/worrying or skepticism.
“The reticular activating system (RAS) is a component of the reticular formation in vertebrate brains located throughout the brainstem. Between the brainstem and the cortex, multiple neuronal circuits ultimately contribute to the RAS.[1] These circuits function to allow the brain to modulate between slow sleep rhythms and fast sleep rhythms, as seen on EEG. By doing this, the nuclei that form the RAS play a significant role in coordinating both the sleep-wake cycle and wakefulness. The groupings of neurons that together make up the RAS are ultimately responsible for attention, arousal, modulation of muscle tone, and the ability to focus.[2]” (Arguinchona and Tadj, 2023)
Orchestrated Objective Reduction (Orch OR) theory Highlights
“Highlights
The Orch OR theory proposes quantum computations in brain microtubules account for consciousness.
Microtubule ‘quantum channels’ in which anesthetics erase consciousness are identified.
Evidence for warm quantum vibrations in brain microtubules is cited.
Interference of microtubule vibrations are ‘beat frequencies’ seen as EEG.
Orch OR links consciousness to processes in fundamental space–time geometry.”
Abstract excerpt:
“The nature of consciousness, the mechanism by which it occurs in the brain, and its ultimate place in the universe are unknown. We proposed in the mid 1990's that consciousness depends on biologically ‘orchestrated’ coherent quantum processes in collections of microtubules within brain neurons, that these quantum processes correlate with, and regulate, neuronal synaptic and membrane activity, and that the continuous Schrödinger evolution of each such process terminates in accordance with the specific Diósi–Penrose (DP) scheme of ‘objective reduction’ (‘OR’) of the quantum state. This orchestrated OR activity (‘Orch OR’) is taken to result in moments of conscious awareness and/or choice. The DP form of OR is related to the fundamentals of quantum mechanics and space–time geometry, so Orch OR suggests that there is a connection between the brain's biomolecular processes and the basic structure of the universe.”
“(C) Consciousness results from discrete physical events; such events have always existed in the universe as non-cognitive, proto-conscious events, these acting as part of precise physical laws not yet fully understood.”
…. Earlier articles about the 1990s theory: “Penrose–Hameroff theory of ‘orchestrated objective reduction’ (‘Orch OR’ [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16])” (Hameroff and Penrose, 2014)
Is the Universe ‘conscious’? …a quark entangled quantum computer of unknown chemistry?
Hameroff and Penrose are not saying that the universe is conscious, (I am though). Their premise is “the universe as non-cognitive, proto-conscious events, …part of precise physical laws not yet fully understood.” (Hameroff and Penrose, 2014) They are not challenging the taboo of ‘Intelligent Design’. But they do seem to be saying there is something that is not well understood that does link our consciousness with ‘proto-conscious events’ of the universe. “Proto-” as a suffix of Greek origin which means first, original or source. Something about the universe set up our ability to have conscious thought, but it is part of not well understood physical laws.
*Reminder current physics is full of math based ‘laws’ and human assumptions. Current astrophysics has a 95% error rate and that has become writ in stone, simply accepted as mysterious subatomic particles that 40 years and a lot of money cannot find. As my mother always said “If you can’t find something, start cleaning. You will find it, or at least the place will be cleaner.” (Cleaner ~ less entropic, more organized; housewives are anti-entropy agents, like firefighters.)
“Cognitive behaviors of single cell organisms Protozoans like Physarum can escape mazes and solve problems, and Paramecium can swim, find food and mates, learn, remember and have sex, all without synaptic connections [25], [26]. How do single cells manifest intelligent behavior?” (Hameroff and Penrose, 2014)
“How do single cell organisms manifest intelligent behavior?”
My answer: Calcium and TRP channels are very ancient across life and sense protons and other energy signals from the environment or chemical signals and it causes changes in cell actions. DHA (omega 3 fatty acid) seems to also be very ancient and has energetic oddities.
Single celled and motile, freshwater green alga Chlamydomonas reinhardtii, was found to have genomic sequences encoding TRP channels, and a specific TRP channel, Cr-TRP1, was identified and characterized. (Arias-Darraz, et al., 2015) This was unusual as plants in general do not have TRP channels, mammals do.
“In silico sequence-structure analysis unveiled the modular design of TRP channels, and electrophysiological experiments conducted on Human Embryonic Kidney-293T cells expressing the Cr-TRP1 clone showed that many of the core functional features of metazoan TRP channels are present in Cr-TRP1, suggesting that basic TRP channel gating characteristics evolved early in the history of eukaryotes.” (Arias-Darraz, et al., 2015)
Paramecium also have TRP channels and motility is part of the function. TRP channels respond to environmental or internal signals and cause cell action from the influx of calcium that the activated/opened TRP channel allows into the cell.
TRP Channels, background info, AI summary
*I use AI as a research tool that saves me some time (e.g., Brave or other AI summaries), but every idea here is my own—often painfully earned.
Brave AI summary: TRP channels in Paramecium have been studied in the context of their role in cellular functions and sensory transduction. These channels are part of a larger family of transient receptor potential (TRP) channels, which are involved in sensing various physical and chemical stimuli. In Paramecium, TRP channels are found in cilia and are associated with the regulation of ion flow, which is essential for cellular processes such as motility and signal transduction.
For instance, the TRPP channel PKD2 has been identified in Paramecium and is involved in the function of cilia, suggesting a role in sensory and motile activities. Additionally, the presence of TRPML and TRPP channels in Paramecium indicates that these channels may have evolved from ancient metazoan-type TRP channels, highlighting their evolutionary significance.
Moreover, the study of TRP channels in Paramecium has provided insights into the molecular mechanisms of these channels, including their structure and function. Research has shown that TRP channels can exhibit polymodal activation, responding to multiple types of stimuli such as temperature, pH, and mechanical forces. This complexity in activation mechanisms underscores the importance of TRP channels in cellular signaling and adaptation.
In summary, TRP channels in Paramecium play a crucial role in cellular functions, including sensory transduction and ion regulation, and their study contributes to our understanding of the broader TRP channel family. (Brave AI summary & cited links)
Is moving towards food or away from ‘discomfort’ of some type considered intelligent behavior? (like EMF, post on transcendingsquare.com) The membrane may be a critical site of ‘intelligence’. Bonus link - eat olive polyphenols for a boost of BDNF, a brain signaling chemical that promotes new brain cell growth.
…and is our own consciousness linked to the universal consciousness?
*Carl Jung’s collective unconsciousness is on this path of a greater wisdom that we may share in some way.
In modern-day astrophysics, we are not supposed to talk about ‘Intelligent Design’; instead theories or descriptions of ‘entropy’ include that given enough time it simply self organizes as if organization is just another form of disorganization. An example given was stirring a cake mix breaks up the egg and oil and water, dispersing it in the cake mix, and if you just keep stirring for a really long time (millennia), it will eventually return to egg, oil, water and mix. Irreversibility is a concept in math which applies even if kitchen know-how is lacking — No, you cannot unscramble an egg or reverse an emulsified mixture by stirring for millennia.
In modern-day ‘healthcare’, we are not supposed to talk about quantum biology or the fact that life at the speed of chemical enzymatic reactions doesn’t seem possible, and yet life happens, and then aging happens.
Aging of galaxies and humans seems to involve an increase in destabilizing factors and a loss or lack of stabilizing factors … stabilizing quantum chemical flow … chemistry, but at higher speeds than standard chemical reactions. Proton tunneling and quark entanglement can allow faster than normal chemistry or information exchange.
I have been struggling a bit with how to write about topics that aren’t supposed to be discussed (or no funding, career loss type repercussions). Cooperating with censorship in the hope that the censors will listen/learn and stop censoring seems foolish, especially if the censors or funders know the real truth and are actively lying about it. Cooperating then is complying with liars who are hiding a profit motive.
I have been losing some subscribers this last month or two and have gained some new - I hope my work resonates with your interests and needs. Please share a comment or ‘Heart’ if something does connect with you as that helps me know what is of interest to you. I hope I have helped some readers and I would like more readers who are interested in quantum health and quantum physics because they more I’ve learned, the more sure I am that we are quantum beings who are being manipulated and maybe even poisoned, into not noticing our energy potential and disabling it through poor diet (bad food supply…, toxic really), EMF and radioactivity in excess, aluminum use throughout the modern world and diet, and then glyphosate tossed in as a further kick into mental decoherence.
Glyphosate and Microtubules (I have more on this topic if interested, ask)
Glyphosate disables the accurate function of microtubules in their hook and crane type of mechanical feature - glyphosate instead of glycine at the hook end makes the hook not work to connect cell parts with other cell parts. An example is seen in cell division when DNA is doubled and then half moved to one side of the cell and the other half moved to the other side. If glyphosate disrupts cell division then it makes sense that it is associated with fetal loss or defects (seen in farm animals fed glyphosate crops… farmers pointing that out got penalized rather than the information being made more widely known). Why is protecting glyphosate more important than protecting baby farm animals…. or other babies (like human babies)?
Brave AI summary: Glyphosate Microtubule Disruption
Glyphosate has been documented to disrupt microtubules, which are essential components of the cell's cytoskeleton. This disruption is part of the mechanisms by which glyphosate affects cellular functions, particularly in reproductive cells. Specifically, glyphosate induces oocyte deterioration by mediating the disappearance of key components of the microtubule organizing center (MTOC), specifically pericentrin, accompanied by shortened spindle fibers and chromosomal disruption. (1) Additionally, glyphosate exposure has been shown to reduce the levels of acetylated α-tubulin* in the polymeric fraction of zebrafish embryos, suggesting a decrease in microtubule stability. These findings highlight the potential of glyphosate to interfere with microtubule dynamics, which can have significant implications for cellular processes such as cell division and intracellular transport. (2; 3; human infertility: 4; impact on a fish species:5)
*Tubulin is the ‘Lego’ building block from which microtubules are formed.
More on glyphosate and health: (Mesnage, 2025; Mesnage and Antoniou, 2020; Mesnage and Antonious, 2018)
Another reason to eat Bacillus subtilis fermented Natto soybeans, or take a product like Microbiome Labs’ product Mega SporeBiotic “Another enzyme found to metabolise glyphosate is glycine oxidase from B. subtilis (Pedotti et al., 2009).” (Mesnage and Antoniou, 2020)
We can keep our heads buried in the sand, complying with censorship, or we can start talking more about what really helps health and what is really disrupting it. Stress and negative thinking are destabilizing too.
Histamine, RAS, Alzheimer’s, and Hijacked Consciousness
I have been stuck in some negative thinking but had a breakthrough, or intuitive rescue, this weekend. I lost my mother recently, and it was difficult, some food errors led to us both getting in a histamine storm, and I felt bad, however I also knew that overall, over four plus years, I had helped her recover her senses enough to remember my name fairly consistently and say some lucid things more often (from severe Alzheimer’s dementia with runaway behavior).
Addition: I found medical history, diagnosis of dementia for my mother was in 2018 and notes written by my father include “Feed the brain (protein) <yes but he wasn’t using enough>, fruits and vegetables; walk more.” She was on sertraline/Zoloft, 50 mg total/day and divalproex/Depakote 125 mg, at that time along with 75 mcg levothyroxine/Synthroid, 50 mg atenolol and a 325 mg aspirin (bad for salicylate risk genetics). 500 mg Calcium carbonate was stopped. Excedrin was used occasionally for headaches (also salicylate risk). Zoloft and Depakote are known to deplete important nutrients (7 Important Nutrients Depleted by Psychiatric Drugs — Optimal Living Dynamics) When wrong solutions are recommended instead of correct solutions, then you’re moving backward instead of forward. More protein and produce and walk more were good suggestions. My father tried and shared with me that it was like he had lost his best friend. My change of her diet allowed her to be less anxious and sit and hold his hand once his health had worsened, incidentally post CoV injection era.
Changes in her memory of childhood events had differed from mine, I noticed prior to 2018, and she seemed more easily angered than normally. Alzheimer’s dementia is now believed to take about 20 years before obvious symptoms and a diagnosis occur, which means diagnosis and lifestyle changes like adequate protein intake was needed in 1998 for her. I write about this topic in part because it is my risk too and my ‘mental health’ is already on that 20-year path. Information I learn may help me to steer off of the path of histamine excess and hippocampal deterioration.
Histamine excess would disrupt RAS function in the tuberomammillary nucleus in the hypothalamus. The Reticular Activating System is also called the Reticular Formation of the brainstem. It is primitive, or '“evolutionally old”, and is involved with surviva functions within animals and humans. RAS directs our focus, and in histamine excess, that focus is put into overdrive and the person may be ready to drive, walk, run, crawl, compulsively away from the current location. *It is not really fun to have ‘consciousness’ hijacked by histamine excess.
“The “reticular” formation is a “network” composed of vague tracts and nuclei (Fig. 2.4) in the brainstem. This primitive structure is evolutionally old and also present in animals, so it is assumed that the reticular formation works for lower level activity, namely for survival.”
Chapter ‘Function of the Brain’, view on ScienceDirect.
Histamine excess can be a genetic risk and/or stress and environment related. Histamine normally is a modulator, the transmission in the car that helps smoothly transition between slow and fast. With an excess of histamine, a tornado of ‘fast, faster, fastest’ spills one into the runaway behavior, paranoid, or grandiose mania - it might feel scary or exciting depending on your mindset, but reckless running or anxious circling the same topic is likely.
Circadian cycle rhythm is affected by histamine receptors, (Rozov, et al., 2015), so sleep/wake may be disrupted by histamine excess. Loss of Histamine receptor type 3 caused reduced activity: “…a knockout of Hrh3 receptor caused a substantial reduction of free-running activity rhythm amplitude.” (Rozov, et al., 2015) An excess of histamine might then cause excessive ‘free-running activity’. Before CoV era and injections led to cancer and becoming a fall risk, my mother could get a mile down the road in any direction before I found her or someone found me and better toddler door-knob handles were in use. Standard care would have used a lock up facility and likely sedatives.
Histamine type 3 receptors are found in the histaminergic part of the Reticular Activating System
“This first report also established that the H3 receptor is abundantly expressed in very important areas of the brain (Fig. 5), e.g., cerebral cortex, thalamus, caudate putamen, ventromedial nucleus of the hypothalamus, and several aminergic projection systems, including histaminergic tuberomamillary nucleus (TMN) neurons [*part of the RAS formation] and the noradrenergic neurons of locus coeruleus.” (Panula, et al., 2015)
Tangent: Blocking the H3 receptors was found helpful for treating alcohol use disorder. (Panula, 2019)
Standard diets would cause histamine excess — many more people are likely experiencing some symptoms of histamine excess then is realized. Several ‘psychiatric’ medications are actually histamine receptor blockers, but then sleepiness is induced due to the importance of histamine receptors for circadian sleep/wake cycles. (Rozov, et al., 2015) Consciousness is complicated… is our take-home point.
I knew I was overwhelmed as sole caregiver, but I also knew that I couldn’t send my mother into a standard care setting where one meal would lead to the severe anxiety and fearful running behavior. She would have been sedated, and the Hospice guidance was to sedate her but I could see that made her worse for days and I stopped using that approach and tried harder with the diet.
The point…. intuitive sources suggest she does love and appreciate my help and wants me to unstick myself and move forward even though troubles exist. She wants me to remember her as she was when healthy, instead of the troubled hard days of histamine storm and paranoid lashing out.
What I learned about histamine and Alzheimer’s dementia (and autism is in play too) could help other people who are trapped in a histamine storm but are just being given sedatives instead of a low histamine diet.
Quantum consciousness is disrupted by out-of-control brain chemistry. Life is a miracle and modern ‘healthcare’ views it more like an automobile - just pop in a new transmission (sedatives) and the car won’t speed anywhere, it may just sit and drool, but that is a medical success if the goal is profit sharing instead of remembering a daughter’s and husband’s name.
I have some tears in my eyes.
I used to smile spontaneously more. My mother would like me to smile and laugh and enjoy life again. The world is troubled, and I can let go of those ties. Why comply with censorship? …because the censors are dangerous. There are academics who skate around the edges. …. It is a good video with Stuart Hameroff and Roger Penrose.
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Love this. I’m exploring a similar angle in my own work the BioCircuit Consciousness Theory, which treats consciousness as a nonlocal signal and the body as a biological receiver. Your framing around pre-empirical assumptions resonates deeply. It’s not just that we haven’t solved the hard problem… we may be tuned to the wrong frequency entirely. Would love to hear your thoughts if you ever check it out: https://bcct.substack.com